10,000 hour rule

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Malcolm Gladwell interview on Outliers


Rumple Stiltskin says:

I don't know where Malcolm gets his figures, but 10,000 hours of on the job training only amounts to about 2.74 hours a day spent on the subject matter, if a person wants to take ten years to become proficient. At 40 hours a week of on the job training you can accomplish that 10,000 hours in about 4.8 years, which has been the approximate qualifying aspect of professionalism for decades now. I did not say four years + of college.

But seriously folks, 10,000 hours doesn't even come close to what is needed for a top-of-the-line musician, because at the level, innate talent comes into play when competing with others who have also put in the time. It is those, who are the true outliers, not someone who has just put in that minimum amount of time. So to discount innate talent by saying that practice will bring those up to the point of genius is not realistic. I really do not count professionals as belonging to that species of outliers either just because they have put in their time.

Also, becoming proficient at a job can become accomplished in far less time depending on what the job is. Most jobs in America can be accomplished by those not even close to being an outlier, so I believe his argument is based on a false premise.

Sovra Wilson-Dickson says:

I might add it's worth remembering the schedule of young kids at violin schools is pretty much that kind of focus. I was in the national youth orchestra at age 14 and the best players were there because they were doing consistent practice mostly at specialist music boarding schools. Not because they just picked up the violin and got good fast. They likely had very good discipline for learning at a young age plain and simple. Genetics has a place but it massively over rated also in my view.

Sovra Wilson-Dickson says:

i calculated 4 hours five days a week consistently for 10 years is 10,400 hours. Now if thats FOCUSED practice also, as 4 hours practice in one run is not nearly as effective according to research (Tony Buzan) as taking frequent breaks to keep recall after learning high..so in fact your talking four broken up hours or it won't be fully focused. Speaking as a musician who has reached a professional level in both drum kit and Violin, and put a lot of hours also into vocal practice too, starting at a very young age, *
 i'd say i never managed that consistency for more than a short while and if i had, you would not just be on a high level after ten years, you would likely be world class…and yes, the question of are you tone deaf to start with does come into play, but a teacher, a good one can by experience can see your weaknesses and help you overcome them. It just takes massive discipline to learn new things while practicing rather than simply re treading old ground. ….?  I'd say it's discipline and consistency and ability to fully push yourself to take in new info all the time that sets the average apart from the masters. Practice is an art where you have to learn to home in on details without fear. Without overwhelm. I'm working on it..and not where i want to be at all…I wish i'd done a consistent 10,000 hours…but it's all been scattered. Shaaaayyyyme…A good book on this  is called effortless mastery by Tony Buzan.

Kent Moyer says:

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10,000 hour rule

Thuy Hainsworth says:

The main point is patient and impatient.

Ilmārs Priede says:

I call bullshit on this one. First of all what mozart composed at age 11 has to be considered genius as far as his age goes, you cant just blatantly call it garbage. 
10k h? Are you nuts? You don't become good, you can become a virtuoso during that amount of time. Its absurd that all people have the same potential in becoming good in something. Genetics alone dictates what traits you possess to favour your abilities to become a musician for example.

Rose Evans says:

10,000 hour rule
10 years!

TheMadManV says:

Perfect Practice makes Perfect, not brute practice. Also people are better at other things naturally or because genetics, like in sports.

You cannot always perform at 100% let alone practice at your best for hours. This theory is totally bullshit, a magic number and nothing else…

Don't get fooled by this Ericsson/Gladwell nonsense, I mean no offense to neither of them, but this 10,000 bullshit really gets to me.

Ethan Harrison says:

00:17 "Oh wait yes I do"

Ethan Harrison says:

00:12 "Oh wait, I don't have to talk like a newscaster"

Jeremy Steel says:

Is this really true? You decide.

Fa Ad says:

hahaha, it sounds like you've definitely spent a good 10 years practising good humour!

TheMitchellWhite says:

this guys hairdresser definitely has not had 10,000 practice.

Z zz says:

then, yeah, i did missunderstand you, sorry.

Z zz says:

who told you the average IQ is one hundred ? show me the Data please.

Z zz says:

thats a different thing than assuming the writer and the reader are too dumb to understand that hrs means hours specially in the context that it was put it in.

Nyakz says:

Music. I'm a vocalists and music producer. And since i been doing vocal training and working on my composition skills, my craft has sky rocketed!!!Don't believe when people tell you cant be great. Greatness is an ability that is developed. If you read the 'outliers'(which is a great book) he explains the only way for the average people to conceptualise that level of ability (i.e micheal jackson, micheal jordan etc etc) is to call it talent when in fact it just their training method.

Nyakz says:

Just an update for people interested in this video. This theory works and has changed my life. I have applied this theory to my life, and I have a seen a massive difference in my ability and my craft. This man was not lying in the slightest. if you want to be amazing invest your time in your craft!

Nyakz says:

and of course you can. I don't believe in the concept of having a gift. I feel if you work hard you can be as good as the next man. Of course with artistry there is a high level of subjectivity in ones ability but as a general rule of thumb after a certain amount of years you'll become a master I am sure. I have applied this theory to my life only for 4 months and already the jump in my ability has been amazing

Nyakz says:

sounds like a full time job+ over time…LOL..I think 3-4 hours a day over 5 days is normal, and allows sufficient recovery time. At 8 hours a day for 6 hours you'll burn out

Z zz says:

good point, in fields like sport, example "cycling running", it is a different case, you can't just go out, cycle/run 40 hours a week and become expert in 5 years, and thats because recovery is a big part of training, if you over train you are hurting your self, so its better to do 10 hours a week with enough rest than 20 hours with bad rest/sleep ( after a year or two the numbers can double but still ).

so the time to become an expert at cycling would be 5000 hrs,running 2000.

Z zz says:

you are not following the smart crowd that provides sufficient input to the conversation instead of correcting "mistakes" that can be obviously understood by anyone with more IQ than 100, thats for sure.

blackee nojob says:

8 hours 6 days a week for 3 and a half years, you'll be pretty damn good at something

Datelesswonders says:

This makes sense. I'm already a master at sitting in a car or bus while someone else is driving.

twatekid91 says:

2 hours a day for ten years

Kevin von Duuglas-Ittu says:

The Problem of Impatience

10,000 hour rule

Moniranan says:

Spent 10.000 drawing anime on home will not help. What will help is study masters for 5.000, and copy their works for 5,000.

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